![]() I think some of these comments are failing to account for how much space (3^^^3)^2 actually is. What's a reasonable size and duration: 10^150? 10^(10^150)? The size of 3^^^3 absolutely dwarfs these. ![]() Most of these universes would be wiped out quickly by local disturbances before they got very far, but still vast numbers would have enough clear or static space around them to permit reasonable durations. If the board is 3^^^3, per side and set up randomly, then it almost certainly would be instantiated with googolplexes of Turing-complete simulations of our entire universe by complete chance alone (similar to Boltzmann Brains), and there would be vastly more universes very much like ours. In fact, if I ever FOOM I intend to spend some time analyzing the problem. This is something that we could determine theoretically based off the Conway's Life physics if we were sufficiently intelligent (and interested). It is also plausible that any sufficiently large randomized Conway board could turn out to converge to a barren 'all off' state. My guess would be that AIs would take over huge swaths of the board but stopped by defensive patterns created by other AIs and the occasional freak defensive structure occurrence. Whether they take over the entire board seems to depend on whether it is possible to create an unstoppable wave in Conway format that expands completely independently of what patterns exist in its path. I have speculated on the subject from time to time I find it a little amusing that all you need to do to create intelligent life is set the screen resolution of ADOM high enough and get as far as the Big Room! One extra caret (3^^^3) and you could definitely expect AIs to exist. The specification of an AI and the surrounding environment that is conducive to life and that is a source of negentropy compatible with the AI is really rather complex. I'd be a little surprised to find an AI (and surrounding environment to support it developing) to be present in a board that small. If you created a 3^^3 by 3^^3 Life board, setting the initial state at random, presumably somewhere an AI would be created. Therefore, it is possible to create an AI in it. However, it's also possible that there are far simpler robust expanding patterns, in which case, larger slower structures such as intelligent agents would be hopelessly overwhelmed. It is unknown whether robust structures can exist in life, even if incredibly intelligent, incredibly large, and incredibly slow, but I would speculate that they can. And then work out another probe to send, and repeat the process, until eventually you had a good enough estimate of what you were dealing with that you could send probes calculated to get rid of it, and all the additional garbage you generated in the process of probing it. I can't imagine even the best sensing/manipulating technology in life is capable of picking its way through even mostly static garbage at any more than a glacial pace.īasically you'd have to send out a probe, wait for the echo, or lack of echo, and from that, recalculate the probabilities of all the different configurations of still lifes and oscillators and spaceships and puffers and so on that the probe could've hit, and how those configurations would've been altered or destroyed or (in most cases) expanded due to collision with your probe. If you had a life board which was extremely sparsely populated, it's possible that a clever agent could send out salvos of gliders and other spaceships in all directions, in configurations that would stop incoming projectiles, inform it about the location of debris, and gradually remove that debris so that it would be safe to expand.Īt a 50% density, the agent would need to start with a fairly large safe space around it, otherwise it would be overwhelmed. Even eaters, which are used to soak up excess gliders, only work when struck from specific directions. There are no known structures in conway's game of life that are robust.
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